I have found 6 different kinds of people when it comes to toxic mold and indoor air quality.
1.) There are the “extreme avoidance” people – When we got sick from mold, we were told there was one way to get well from mold and most of the time, that even failed. Leave and take nothing with you. Practice extreme avoidance. Clean, clean, clean, wash, wash, wash, HEPA vacuum, HEPA filter, try anything to clean the air and surfaces.
Extreme avoidance goes along with minimalist living. Don’t buy much of anything because you might have to throw it out later when it starts making you sick.
The goal of “extreme avoidance” is to live in a completely toxin free environment by throwing out or cleaning anything toxic, keeping things clean and/or enclosed in plastic bags and plastic containers.
Living in tents, empty metal boxes and environmentally friendly tiny homes is the norm.
Living in a modern, stick built home is often frowned upon in the extreme avoidance mindset.
2.) There are the “mold experts” – Mold inspectors, mold remediators, and people who work in indoor air quality – they all think their way of cleaning up mold is the best way. I have seen more botched mold remediations than successful ones. Some mold experts are out to help people and some, unfortunately, are out to make a dollar and don’t care who they hurt.
I hired one self proclaimed mold expert to do the original testing on my home. That testing cost me $2700.00 – I now know I could have done that testing for about $200. I have never hired another mold expert. I don’t trust most of them. There is a saying among people who work in mold, “Mold is Gold” and I think people should not take advantage of other people.
Get recommendations from people who have success stories with a “mold expert” before you hire anyone. Get several different opinions and trust your gut instinct.
People who are sensitive to mold cost mold remediators time and money. Sensitive people need things extra clean, they take extra time. Most mold experts don’t want to deal with people who are sick from mold. Many don’t believe we get as sick as we do. They work in mold all the time and they are “fine” so these people who get sick must be hypochondriacs and fakers.
I have been to several indoor air quality conferences and there is very little agreement on the best method of cleaning for mold… there are written guidelines for mold remediation and inspections, but those guidelines don’t go far enough to protect the consumer from the mold “expert” who does an insufficient job. An air test to “clear” a building is not sufficient.
The ultimate test of a successful remediation should be that people in the building that were sick before the remediation are not sick after the remediation. A HERTSMI every 6 months for the next 2 years or blood tests every 3-6 months depending on the severity of the illness of the inhabitants.
Right now, if you get sick from mold again after a mold remediation the only guarantee you have is that there is no guarantee.
3.) There are the “bleach it and paint it with Kilz” people – this one is by far the most dangerous. The bleach makes mold disappear but the water in the bleach feeds the roots of the mold, far below the surface. The mold continues to grow beneath the surface and then the Kilz is actually mold food too.
4.) There are the “indoor air doesn’t make me sick” people – they will just stay in the toxic home, school or building. They figure they won’t get that sick. Someone else might get sick, but they’re fine. They may get sick with cancer or MS but they don’t believe it is from the air they breathe.
5.) There are the “I can’t afford to move” people – They don’t have the money so they stay in mold. Sometimes it’s homes and sometimes it’s a job. They have no where to go. They need the job. So they stay, and get sicker.
These people need help. Our communities should be reaching out to shut-ins and chronically sick people and doing environmental testing for them. Public buildings should all have to test once a year and more often if people are sick in the building.
The air we breathe is making a lot of people sick.
It’s a silent epidemic that very few are talking about.
When a test told us we had toxic mold and we were sick… we got out! We figured out how to pay for it later.
6.) There are the “Hi Tech” people – we don’t have to run from mold, or be afraid of mold. We have Hi Tech and we just turn it on and breathe. It cleans the air, it cleans our stuff, it cleans our cars.
I’ve tried dozens of HEPA filters, diffusing oils, diffusing propolis, ozone blasting, fogging, cleaning and encapsulating – and nothing works like Hi Tech. That’s why the company can give a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee and a 5 Year Warranty. It works.
Got Mold? No problem. Hi Tech it.
It’s not always that simple. Sometimes you need to do repairs and use Hi Tech.
For someone who is sensitive, like me… Hi Tech is a great tool.
I know my air is clean because I run Hi Tech in my home.
I think every home should be proactively cleaning their air all the time.
If anyone is sick they should test, test and retest until they find the environmental toxin that is making them sick.
Why wait until you GET sick?
We breathe 7-8 liters of air per minute. Wouldn’t you like the air you breathe to be CLEAN?
–> If you’ve ever had a flooded basement, a leaky pipe, or a leaky roof.
–> If food tends to mold easily if you leave it on the counter.
–> If you are achy all over and blaming it on “old age”
–> If you are forgetful bordering early Alzheimer’s Disease
There may be hidden mold or other airborne toxins:
VOC’s, formaldehyde, bacteria, viruses, radon, pesticides, fire retardants, carbon monoxide… our air is just not guaranteed to be good. If you have not tested your indoor air quality, you may have a problem.
Some questions that came up during our $40,000 remediation: How much is enough?
How much is too much?
Will this work?
How am I going to pay for this?
Why are there so many sick buildings?
1.) rising cost of repairs: some people don’t have the money for adequate repairs
2.) unskilled workers: anyone with a hammer can build a house – no education required
3.) increasingly tight houses: rising costs of fuel, insulate more, stagnant air
4.) outdoor air is not good: even with air exchange, outdoor air is getting worse
5.) not enough people know you can safely clean indoor air of all organic toxins
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Why should we be concerned with air quality? ~92% of people worldwide live with excessive air pollution, contributing to problems like strokes, heart disease and lung cancer ~ World Health Organization, September of 2016
~Americans spend over 90% of their time indoors.
Indoor air has 2 to 5 times more pollutants than outdoor air.
~At least 30% of the buildings in the United States experience indoor air quality problems. ~The World Health Organization, 1984
~Indoor air pollution, commonly called sick building syndrome, costs businesses $60 billion annually ~ U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
In 2007-2011, my family became so sick from mold that when we found out what was making us sick, we did whatever it took to breathe clean air again. We threw out almost everything we owned and spent a ton of MONEY and TIME on mold remediation. We were homeless, between motel rooms and tents, for 300 days.
The only thing I found that was working to clean clothes and the few non-porous things we took with us was ammonia. So, we stuck with ammonia for the remediation.
We owned a home we could not live in. And so, we lived in tents, motel rooms and my husband worked on the house that made us sick. I did the research on what to do, and he did the work.
We were sick. Camping and living in hotel rooms is not “fun” when you are sick, the kids are sick and the dog is sick. We had to do it because we could not find a safe place to rent.
We looked at dozens of homes and apartments. And I got sick at ALL of them.
A 1984 World Health Organization Committee
report suggested that up to 30 percent of new and
remodeled buildings worldwide may be the subject
of excessive complaints related to indoor air quality
He threw out three quarters of what we owned and ripped the house down to studs.
It was financially and emotionally gut-wrenching. Never-mind how sick we were. Try being homeless when you are sick. It’s almost too much to bear.
Mold remediation was difficult and expensive.
The whole house had to be decontaminated. This was the system that worked for us.
1.) Ozone blast- which means you have to get all people, plants and pets out of the house because ozone, at the levels you need to kill mold will also kill anything living.
2.) Clean every surface with ammonia and cotton rags – wear mask & gloves
3.) HEPA vacuum
It took over 10 months, and over $40,000. Finally, we were not getting sick in the house anymore.
We moved back in.
We continued to practice “extreme avoidance” by bagging up all papers and throwing things out or banishing things to the porch or back to the storage unit if they made us sick.
We went back to the 3 step system if I started feeling sick. Ozone. Ammonia. HEPA.
We were constantly cleaning.
I had to hire someone to do deep cleaning once a week.
We did a HERTSMI test every 6 months or so. For the first 2 1/2 years after the first remediation our HERTSMI’s were a 4 or a 6 – consistently low and enough to keep me feeling our house was fairly safe. Anything under a 12 is considered safe for most people.
Mold Remediation Has NO GUARANTEE
If you are not testing for toxic mold, you will not know if you have it. I recommend doing the HERTSMI every 6 months… whether you think you have a problem or not!
August, 2014, 31 months after we moved back into our home, our HERTSMI score was a 20. (anything over 12 is NOT SAFE)
I didn’t want to lose all my stuff again.
I didn’t want to be homeless again.
I didn’t have the money to do another remediation!
I found this testimony of Bill and Ruth Pillings using Hi Tech Air reactors. They had a flood and the mold inspector told them they had to replace the walls. They decided not to. They got Hi Tech. They had mold testing done at their house for a year after and the levels were very close to zero. Listen to them tell the story. 🙂
We Were Getting Sick – Something Had to Be Done!
I remember thinking, “If they can put one of these machines in their house after a flood and they can feel better and the mold can actually disappear… maybe this thing will work?”
Then, I clicked on the name, Ray Robison, which brought me to a page with all the videos Ray Robison uploaded to youtube – and they were all about this machine that was getting rid of mold and pet odors. One of them was an “Environmental Expert” named Dick Lee who teaches at the college level. He said he saw mold counts and formaldehyde levels go down dramatically.
There was not a company name or a link to any website from those youtube videos — so I had to do my research. I found out Ray Robison owned a company called Hi Tech Air Solutions out of Moore, Oklahoma.
I got Ray’s phone number off the website and gave him a call. I told him about our situation and asked him if he thought his machines could help me.
He said, “Yes. – without a doubt”
From August 2014 to November 2014, I researched and asked around to people I knew who had been sick from mold. No one I knew in the mold community had ever tried a Hi Tech air reactor. I called Ray a couple of more times. He was very helpful answering questions.
I was devastated. I was frightened. I did not want to have to leave my home and go live in a tent again. If I was going to live in a tent I wasn’t doing it in upstate New York again. Too cold. I had just spent 3 months on Kauai and my two oldest daughters are living there.
I told my husband, we either get one of these machines or I’m flying back to Kauai and I will camp on the beach, stay with my daughter or stay with friends until I find a place. The weather is beautiful all the time and I felt great when I was staying in Kapaa.
Then, I went one step further.
I told him we had to buy a machine for my parents.
Here was my thinking:If this does work, I want to help my parents too. And I want to be able to visit them again. My mom had been very sick and I could not go into their house without getting very, very sick.
I bought 2 Model 101’s. With the feeling that these were going to work… but if they didn’t, I could send them back.
There was a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee.
So, I was still doubting. But extremely hopeful.
I remember the night they arrived. The tracking number said they would be arrive Wednesday, November 19th – the day after my birthday. I had a class to teach online at 7pm and I was not feeling good from the mold in my home. I couldn’t wait for those machines to get here.
The UPS driver got here at 6:40 – I had already called UPS at 5:00 because the package had not gotten here and they explained that they deliver until 7pm and my packages were out for delivery. I met the UPS driver at the truck. I wanted my machines!
The Second Time – We Got Hi Tech
We had some of the symptoms coming back: brain fog, nausea, and fatigue.
Our HERTSMI was at 20 in August.
In November of 2014 – we got a Hi Tech air reactor, installed the bulbs, plugged it in and turned the Hi Tech air reactor on.
That was the first day of the rest of my life. We have been breathing cleaner air ever since. I felt better almost immediately and definitely felt better when I was in the room with the machine for the first few weeks.
Now, I can be any where in my house and the air just feels clean and light.
Our follow up HERTSMI was a 6 – down 14 points.
If somebody comes over from a mold house or brings moldy things in the machine cleans the stuff that comes into the house. I might feel an initial reaction to mold and other toxins on stuff… but the machine cleans it up.
I travel with Hi Tech and I clean my car with Hi Tech.
I can shop at thrift stores again and the machine cleans the moldy smell off stuff.
I have saved books, artwork, photos, clothes, papers and so much more.
When the Hi Tech 101 helped me so much, I called up Ray, the owner of the company and I said, “I’m going to tell people about these.”
And Ray said, “Then, I’m going to pay you.”
You don’t have to worry about me just telling you about something because I might get a commission. I know it’s instinct to not trust someone’s opinion because they might be just trying to sell something. There is no way I could ever tell you something works if it didn’t work. How could I ever make up such a story?
Anyway, the company has a money back guarantee. A company just could not offer a money back guarantee if the product didn’t work!
The money back guarantee was one of the biggest reasons I bought a Hi Tech Air Reactor. If you have any doubt whether or not this could work, the money back guarantee should seal the deal.
I am thrilled every time someone gets to experience clean air the way I have been able to enjoy clean air. I think every school, library, public building and home should be properly sized for clean air with Hi Tech Air Solutions.
After we remediated our home, and before we found Hi Tech, I was so sensitive to mold that I felt mold on a lot of things and in a lot of places. My face would burn and I would get sick to my stomach. I would feel brain fog and have no energy.
I would obsess about stopping mold from cross-contaminating my home because I was afraid we would get sick again… and I was afraid of losing our home again.
Papers, people, clothes and books were easily contaminated from moldy buildings and my skin would burn from the toxins on these items when they would come into my home. Sometimes I would stay sick for days or weeks before I would figure out we had brought in something moldy and once we found it I would put it onto the porch and clean obsessively.
Our remediation was expensive and we were not able to live in our home when it was being done… that took over 10 months. I was afraid our house would make me sick again if it ever got cross-contaminated we’d wind up homeless again.
These are some of the extreme things I would do before I got Hi Tech:
Everything was cleaned with 50/50 spray ammonia, including walls, ceilings, floors & stuff.
All mail went directly in Ziploc bags and stayed there until I could look at it outside
No cardboard, paper or books were allowed in the house, unless it was enclosed in plastic: plastic bags, plastic tubs, plastic tubs in plastic bags, some things would be in multiple bags & tubs because I would feel the toxins through the plastic.
Clothing, sheets and blankets went in space bags
I did not want people to visit who lived in moldy places (this included good friends and family) If people did come over and I was reacting to them, I had to clean the whole house and often times I was sick for days or weeks. I would meet people outside the door instead of inviting them in to avoid cross-contamination
School work, book bags, shoes and other things that were suspected to be moldy had to stay on the porch. If they wound up in the house (because kids need to do homework) it meant a lot of cleaning later.
I would ozone the kids bedrooms, while they were at school, then clean every surface with ammonia.
Appliances and Electronics had to be opened and cleaned with ammonia, regularly. The inside of TV’s and computers would hold onto dust and I would react to them.
Cleaning made me sick, so sometimes, when I could afford it, I would hire cleaning people who would agree to clean with ammonia and follow my strict cleaning rules.
Clothes were washed in 1-2 cups of ammonia
I had to go out with the dog for 2-4 hours a week to ozone the house
I had 5 an IQ Air, 2 Austin Air Healthmates, a Purifan, a propolis diffuser and an essential oil diffuser. The HEPA filters made me feel worse when they were on, so I kept them in the closet. The propolis diffuser would work on one room… so I kept it in my bedroom.
Since I started using Hi Tech to clean my indoor air… I don’t have to go to extremes to stay mold-free. I have one Hi Tech 101 for my 1,344 square foot home and I don’t get sick from stuff that comes into our home. The Hi Tech cleans air and surfaces. I don’t obsess about mold anymore because my Hi Tech takes care of any possible cross-contamination.
My life has gone back to normal
I don’t use ozone anymore
We have friends and family over whenever we want
I clean with all-natural cleaners – no more ammonia
We have books again
Mail gets put in a shoe box until it is dealt with
Important papers are in a file cabinet – no more Ziploc bags
Hi Tech quietly cleans the air 24/7
I change the filter every 3 months and the reactor pads and bulbs once a year
I’m so happy and grateful my Hi Tech makes it so I don’t obsess about mold anymore!
Anyone who is concerned that mold may be making them sick… contact me for support and advice.
We got well by getting away from the exposure and with natural supplements.
If you are sick and you are not concerned about mold, you should be.
I have talked to many professionals over the years who believe that 100% of heart disease and cancer are mold related. Mold causes thick blood which can cause many other issues… and mold suppresses the immune system, making it possible for the body to catch anything that is in the air.
Clean your air. Look into the Hi Tech air reactors. It’s a whole house portable air cleaning system based on the square footage of a home or building. There are payment plans if you need them. It’s a major purchase. I would say it’s the best investment I have ever made.
I have finally found something that is working to keep the air clean.
Love to you if you have struggled with toxic mold. I hate to see sickness and struggles with health… and you may be missing an important part of the picture.
Indoor Air Quality… or lack of it can make people and pets very, very sick. May you live a long and healthy life.